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Posted Sunday September 3, 2006, 01:07 am

 

Disturbing

 

I read your comments regarding the Israeli lobby that's so active in our nation's capital.

 

It was truly revealing and I found it disturbing, as an American. I've taken the liberty of copying it from the www.Pravda.ru

site and have sent it to many of my correspondents.

 

It's a shame this information isn't all over our media here in the United States. A shame, but not surprising.

 

Capt. B. Horn (USA)

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Reply by R. T.:

 

It amazes me also that such news, as the AIPAC's president's declaration that each candidate, Republican or Democrat, must pass a test before having a chance of being elected, is not made known to the American people. One would think that a serious journalist would be asking any candidate -first, if he or she had to write a policy paper for AIPAC, and, if yes, -second, would he or she have any objection of making it public. Only then would the people know for whom they are voting.

 

Maybe you should drop a note to your candidates in Arizona to ask them the question.

 

R. T.

 

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Posted Thursday August 26, 2006, 12:40 am

 

Canada and the Israeli Lobby

 

You are 100% right in everything you write. I'm also a great admirer of Quebec. The fierce determination of Quebecers to protect their culture and independence has prevented the Israeli lobby from taking over in Quebec as it did in the US and are doing right now in English Canada.

 

As in the United States, one of their methods is taking control of the news media. The English CBC has been already "conquered". If someone doubts it, he/she should compare how the Israel's barbaric bombing of Lebanon was covered by the English CBC compared with the French CBC (Radio Canada).

 

For instance, the www.cbc.ca website made hardly any mention of the world-wide outrage and the condemnation of these crimes against humanity by reputed organizations such as Amnesty International. Also, the highly-regarded "CounterSpin" show has been cancelled because it was possibly the only international politics TV show in North America that invited advocates from all sides and gave them equal time. Incidentally, Mr. Rabinovich, the CEO of CBC Canada was apparently appointed by Prime Minister Chrétien (go figure!). If a TV channel that supposedly belongs to the Canadian people does that, what can you expect from privately-owned TV networks, some of which are outright owned by Zionists? In Toronto at least, all political discussion forums are hosted by fierce pro-Israeli supporters. This includes the "Diplomatic Immunity" on TVO, the Michael Coren show and so on. The same goes with the printed media. The Toronto Sun and National Post are outright owned by Zionists.

 

The Toronto Star is no longer an objective source of information (as it used to be). Mr. Harroon Siddiqui, the former Editorial Page editor, has been demoted (although he is still employed in a minor capacity), and since then the Toronto Star has become a brainwashing tool like other newspapers. I think that the situation is even worse outside Ontario (excluding Quebec, of course). I believe that the electoral victory of Mr. Harper is partly due to the takeover of the English Canadian news media by the Israeli Lobby. A very sad situation, indeed, for people who believe in freedom of the press, democracy and respect for human rights.

 

I'd like to add that this is not about the Jews. Many Jewish people are as outraged as the rest of us. This includes Amy Goodman, Uri Avneri, Noam Chomsky (voted recently the most influential intellectual in the world), Norman Finkelstein and many others. However, the Israeli Lobby denies them access to the mainstream media outlets, so they are unknown to the general public.

 

Dorin Gheciu (Canada)

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My blog is mainly about the U.S. and international geopolitics, and follows in the footsteps of my book "The New American Empire".

 

This does no mean that I do not follow with grave apprehension what is going on in Canada. The previous liberal goverment opened the door to media concentration when it allowed the Asper family from Winnipeg to own most English-language newspapers in Vancouver, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal and Halifax, and to launch the TV Global network. This has resulted in a tremendous concentration of propaganda political power in many Canadian urban areas.

 

As to Mr. Rabinovich's CBC, I noticed that even on Radio Canada, reports on the Israeli attacks on Lebanon, last July 2006, became gradually less critical as the war went on. I suspect that some orders were conveyed downstream.

 

As to Quebec, to which you refer, you have probably witnessed the seemingly concerted campaign of denigration that the National Post and the Ottawa Israeli Embassy has orchestrated against Quebecers who publicly opposed this immoral war.

 

There seems to be a pattern here. However, money still does not play as an important role in politics in Canada as in the U.S.  But Media propaganda in Canada is important, as the Harper's victory of last January demonstrates. Nevertheless, with public financing of political parties and with, for some time, more diversity in information outlets, Canada could probably avoid the sad fate of Americans who are facing an oligarchy of two political parties dominated by the same money interests. If Canadians are not vigilant, there is a good chance that they could also lose the substance of their democracy.

 

If you read French, here is a good news site worth visiting: www.vigile.net/

 

R. T.

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Posted Thursday August 24, 2006, 09:05 am

 

Confirmation

 

Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:05:01 -0400

 

Here is a 2001 article that confirms your assessment of the Israel-US relationship:

 

Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP) -- According to Israel radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, [Shimon] Peres warned [Ariel] Sharon Wednesday that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us."

 

At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."

 

The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public relations disaster."

 

Gerhart (USA)

 

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Posted Wednesday August 23, 2006, 20:05 pm

 

Further Thoughts

 

My apologies. The way I read that part of the article it sounded like you were saying that Jefferson drafted the First Amendment.

 

I do share your concern about the government subsidizing religious organizations, albeit for different reasons most likely. When a government controls the purse strings of religious organizations we run the danger having state sanctioned churches a la Red China, no government should have that kind of leverage over private religious groups. At the same time, lobbyists such as AIPAC or Christians United For Israel ought to be kept out of the halls of Congress and the White House, the only lobby our government should have is the American people. All Americans should heed the words of George Washington in his farewell address;

 

"The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur.

 

So, likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill will, and a disposition to retaliate in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld; and it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation) facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country without odium, sometimes even with popularity, gilding with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation....

 

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy, to be useful, must be impartial, else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people to surrender their interests."

 

I think we can agree that those words are more true now than ever before. Keep up the good fight.

 

Keith T. Ressa (USA)

 

Reply by R. T.:

 

Thank you for your thoughts about the infuence of special interest lobbies in a democracy.

 

Thank you very much also for reminding us all of the wise words of President George Washington.

 

The United States was very fortunate to have so many great men who presided at its independence and who crafted probably the best constitution in the world. Men like Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Adams, Franklin and a host of others were truly exceptional.

 

R. T.

 

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Posted Wednesday August 23, 2006, 16:32 pm

 

Arguments for Lobbies

 

There is widespread, across the board support for Israel in the USA. It cuts across party lines and is found in virtually every sector of US society.

 

It’s not just rabid Zionists and Christian kooks.  It’s not just slick marketing.

 

People just don’t buy into the “Israel is the source of all evil in the universe” argument. It’s never been a seller. Most people in the USA have favorable attitudes toward Jews. That is transferred to Israel. Arab/Muslim terrorism has never sold here.  It obliterated any goodwill.

 

The reason that the AARP and NRA are also powerful is frankly because everyone has retired Moms and Dads and most people support gun ownership.

 

No lobby has the power to go against the overwhelming opposition of the majority.

 

Talk about lobbies; the Gulf State Arabs spend tens of millions. Look at the Dubai Port deal.

 

Scott J. Fields (USA)

 

Reply by R. T.:

 

Thanks for your input.

 

My humble blog is read all over the world. I am proud to welcome many diverse points of view.

 

There is nothing wrong with liking a foreign country, especially when one's relatives originate from that country. However, as the commentator above indicates, quoting President George Washington from his farewell address, there is always the danger of becoming the "slave to one's affection" and to "sacrifice the interests of [one's] country." I wonder if you agree with George Washington on that.

 

Special interest lobbies, such as AARP and NRA, are also O.K., provided their lobbying is done in the open, in the sunshine of public knowledge. It is when such special interests exert such a secret control on government that it becomes tantamount to subverting democracy.

 

R. T.

 

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Posted Wednesday August 23, 2006, 01:39 am

 

Clarification

 

I enjoyed your article "AIPAC, the religious right and American foreign policy". As a born again Christian who does not share Mr. Bush's or the "Christian" Zionists eschatological beliefs, I am deeply concerned about the direction they are taking American foreign policy.

 

I thought though that I would clarify a statement you made in the article, you wrote "Such a state agency would seem to run contrary to the "wall of separation" between church and state that President Thomas Jefferson thought he had erected with the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution." Thomas Jefferson did not erect anything, he was not present at the Constitutional Convention of 1787, he was in France serving as U.S ambassador to that country. The letter in which Jefferson coined the phrase "wall of separation" was actually Jefferson giving his opinion of what he thought the Framers of the Constitution had intended.

 

It should be noted that Jefferson was philosophically at odds with the vast majority of the Framers in terms of philosophy of government and religious beliefs. The non-establishment clause in the First Amendment he references nowhere mention a "wall of separation", all it says is that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" or in layman's terms Congress will not pick a national denomination for the whole country.

 

It is also important to remember that while Congress may not establish a so-called national denomination, the States of the Union retained that right for themselves and exercised it as such throughout the early history of the United States. I thought this historical context is important, opposition to Bush should not have to be a secularists vs. religionists debate, but rather a debate built on respect for law and civilized society vs. lawlessness and barbarism. Thank you for your contribution and your time.

 

Keith T. Ressa (USA)

 

Reply from R. T.:

Dear Mr. Ressa,

 

Your point is well taken. I was referring to Jefferson's interpretation of the no official religion clause as meaning that government should not get involved in the private religious affairs of citizens.

 

But let us not play with words here. When a government, such as the Bush-Cheney administration, starts subsidizing religious organizations with tax dollars levied on everybody, it usually does not do so for all religious organizations, but finds ways to subsidize only those it supports or those of its political allies. I would be most surprised, for example, to know how much money of the "faith-based" government initiatives have gone to Muslim organizations. Therefore, when public money is directed towards some religions, it is equivalent to financing the "establishment of religion" through the back door. In law, as you know, what is not allowed directly, cannot be accomplished indirectly.

 

Also, keep in mind that religious organizations are tax-exempted, so to subsidize them directly means that they are doubly supported by the state. May I also point out that there is a law which states that a tax-exempt religious organizations cannot get involved in partisan politics without losing its privileged tax-exempt status. This law is obviously not applied presently.

 

That is why I share Jefferson's view that in a diverse democratic society, the apparatus of government should not be used by the people in office to promote one or many religious agendas and reap the electoral rewards in a partisan way. That is tantamount to demagoguery and it is very divisive.

 

As to the "war of religion" disguised as a "war of civilization" that some are presently promoting, it is truly a return to barbarism and primitivism.

 

Thank you very much for your nice comment.

 

R. T.

 

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